Baionette wkc

Bonsoir, je viens vers vous pour obtenir des renseignements et surtout une estimation de cette baionette.

Il 'agit d'une baionette allemande qui ne possede aucun autre marquage que WKC sur la lame, aucun waa et dont son fourreau ne possede aucun marquage.
Apparement cette baionette a pu etre distribué dans certains services comme la police ou autre.
Son bronzage est quasiment parfait.
Elle a ete trouvé dans un grenier de maison dans les ardennes par mes soins

Merci pour votre aide

Bonjour
la réponse est ici
Cdl
https://www.passionmilitaria.com/t210716-baionnette-allemande-ww2-fabrication-privee-wkc-plaquette-bakelite-rouge

Bonsoir oliv, merci pour le lien!
Auriez vous une idee de prix pour cette baionette?

Bonjour,

Voilà ce qui se dit sur un forum à propos de ce marquage. La fabrication de cette baïonnette aurait été faite au camps de Dachau.

"Since so few WKC behoerden bear any additional markings, identifying the end users is difficult. However, one small lot (c.a. 1936) was contracted for by the SS. All examples have the early serifs on the letters and wooden grips. They made their way into the U.S. in the 1980s along with thousands of S84/98, Polish Mauser, Vz24, and others imported from the Balkans. These bayonets were almost uniformly in poor condition, and slathered in viscous grease. I saw the first example at the Great Western show in California, which came in a shipment of several hundred bayonets a collector/dealer had purchased from a distributor. The second turned up a few years later (found in a "bucket 'O bayonets") at a Florida gun show, for $20.00. I have the rubbing taken from the totenkopf found on the cross guard of that one. The example pictured is in Europe, so likely came from there and is the third (and best) one I know of. It is typical of nearly all the bayonets I saw, and IMHO a totally legitimate example based on the one I physically examined.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=728279

Now, there has been conjecture (with some strong evidence to support the possibility) WKC had a satellite factory at the Dachau KZL. Swords and other edged weapons for the SS were also made at this location. If one compares the later military contract bayonets "cvl" with their WKC behoerden counterparts, it is readily evident they were not made on the same production line. The machine markings, finish, grips, etc. are not the same at all. Had these been made in the same factory, on the same tooling, they ought to share similar characteristics.

One other bit of corroborating evidence is from personal experience. At a O.G.C.A. show in the mid 1980s, I acquired five nearly new, late WKC behoerden, along with 4 very late, new but of "ratty" construction frogs, from one seller. He had these and a number of other items, on his table. When I inquired how he came to have the five similar bayonets and four frogs, he stated those items (and several others pointed out to me) came from the estate of a U.S. Army doctor whom had repatriated them from the Dachau KZL, during a three week stay in the camp to help alleviate the suffering of the remaining inmates. All the items were taken from storage areas within the confines of the camp. Based on the earlier SS accepted bayonets, and the Dachau KZL association, there appears to be some connection between WKC & the SS (not unlike the relationship between Steyrwerke and the SS). I once believed WKC behoerden may have gone to the Police as well. They did make stag-handle Police bayonets during the Wiemar era. However, I have yet to see a Police accepted WKC behoerden S84/98, but cannot say with certainty they do not exist. BTW, I still have one bayonet & one frog from the lot I purchased back in the day...
Last edited: Sep 16, 2018

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Super interessant, merci gillou!

Voltige a écrit:

Super interessant, merci gillou!

De rien

Bonjour Voltige ,

pour une estimation , des photos à la lumière du jour seraient appréciable

- lame
- quillon
- Foureau

La voici a la lumiere

Personne pour une fouchette de prix?

Bonsoir

j'en possède une identique a la votre dans un état proche du neuf,par contre elle a tout les marquages d'une bonne réglementaire,fourreau au même N° ,marqué WKC 1940,tout comme la lame ,deux poinçons du waffenam sur le pommeau de la poignée.

amicalement

Gilles

Bonsoir gilles, le fait de ne pas avoir de marquage change

Voltige a écrit:

Bonsoir gilles, le fait de ne pas avoir de marquage change

Oui