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Date d'inscription : 20/07/2014

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MessageSujet: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyLun 28 Juil 2014 - 20:25

Hello guys,

still me!Very Happy
Found these 2 platines de mousqueton i believe!
Can i have some help to identify it guys?Very Happy
Really dont know nothin' about it..XD
Thanks in advance!!Very Happy

A bientot,
Alex.Wink

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Nombre de messages : 45492
Age : 68
Localisation : Haut Doubs
Thème de collection : reconstitution XVII° et XVIII°.
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2009

Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Empty
MessageSujet: Re: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyMar 29 Juil 2014 - 8:47

Hello!
A good picture of this one, the other side, please?
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The screw are modern!
What is the total length?

The main spring have no screw: abnormal.

May be a copy??



The other one was a flintlock platine, modified for caps in the 1840/1860's.
Civil transformation for hunting.
Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Img_2611

The flange nuts (green) is not a military.
Else is like a 1777, AN IX, 1822 platine.

A 1777 platine:
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Note the mainspring screw and the flange nuts.
Total length 160 mm.
Cordialement,
CG
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Nombre de messages : 45492
Age : 68
Localisation : Haut Doubs
Thème de collection : reconstitution XVII° et XVIII°.
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2009

Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Empty
MessageSujet: Re: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyMar 29 Juil 2014 - 10:06

Difference with a 1754 rifle:
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1728 and 1746 are similar.
It is not a french military platine.

The sheet battery spring is blued and seems very thin!
As the screws, it's looks like a modern spring.
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Date d'inscription : 20/07/2014

Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Empty
MessageSujet: Re: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyMar 29 Juil 2014 - 15:32

Hello Crevette,

thanks for reply my friend!
Found the couple on a flea market and as i said i really dont know nothin' about it!
Do you think that one its a copy?
Of wich era?
A modern or a old copy?
I've take some better pics, hope this help!Very Happy

A bientot,
Alex.Wink

P.S.
Can i have acces to MP please?
Even to sale section if i can, jut to buy or sell somethin'!Very Happy

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Nombre de messages : 45492
Age : 68
Localisation : Haut Doubs
Thème de collection : reconstitution XVII° et XVIII°.
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2009

Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Empty
MessageSujet: Re: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyMar 29 Juil 2014 - 16:04

12,5 cm, it is small.
May be for a pistol or a mousqueton?
But not french.

The screws slots are as U (in green on the picture): modern.
Old screws slots are as V.
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The 2 dog's screws are made with mechanical turn (in orange below: tool circular marks), the dog is molded (molding line in red on the picture above): copy.
 I think modern copy.
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Perhaps the screws are at ISO standards?

For sale section: wait after one month presence (20/7/2014>20/8/2014).
For MP it is OK, no?
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Nombre de messages : 456
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Date d'inscription : 20/07/2014

Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Empty
MessageSujet: Re: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyMar 29 Juil 2014 - 17:17

Bonsoir Crevette,

thanks a lot for your help my friend!
Incredible..Even that kind of things are faked?
Cant believe it!Haha..
I wonder how they are come to that flea market!XD
I've pay 20 euro for both, do you think its too much?

No problem about the acces, now the MP works, great!Very Happy

A bientot,
Alex.Wink
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Nombre de messages : 45492
Age : 68
Localisation : Haut Doubs
Thème de collection : reconstitution XVII° et XVIII°.
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2009

Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Empty
MessageSujet: Re: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyMar 29 Juil 2014 - 18:27

20€ is not expansive!
60/80€ approximatively for the caps platine original and more than 100€ for the copy, she is beautiful and good for a XVIII° century (approx. 1730>1760) copy flint pistol.
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Date d'inscription : 20/07/2014

Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D Empty
MessageSujet: Re: Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D   Platines de mousqueton?Help please!:D EmptyMar 29 Juil 2014 - 19:01

Crevette a écrit:
20€ is not expansive!
60/80€ approximatively for the caps platine original and more than 100€ for the copy, she is beautiful and good for a XVIII° century (approx. 1730>1760) copy flint pistol.

Hello Crevette,

wow!
So much even if the second one its a reply?
Thanks a lot my friend!

A bientot,
Alex.Very Happy
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